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The Lonely Work of a Free-Speech Defender

Natalie Kitroeff & Greg Lukianoff | New York Times | December 05, 2025

Dec 31, 2025

FIRE President Greg Lukianoff and The New York Time’s Natalie Kitroeff discuss the current state of free speech in the United States. In a wide-ranging conversation, the pair discuss recent federal actions that some perceive as a threat to First Amendment protections and how freedom of speech can be undermined by leaders on both sides of the political spectrum. The podcast delves into the current state of free speech and how to protect it amid political and cultural pressures.

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